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Compare: LX 1.8 DOHC vs. Miata motor

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Old June-2nd-2003 | 07:57 PM
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Compare: LX 1.8 DOHC vs. Miata motor

Let me explain. There is a scarce amount of goodies for my 1990 Protege LX. That, or I'm not looking hard enough.

Anyway, I know there's a lot for Miatas. So, is my LX motor significantly similar to any Miata motor?

I know I could probably make due with the available LX stuff, but just humor me...For the sake of argument, what would be compatible between the two?
Old June-2nd-2003 | 08:00 PM
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just use the search function for , looking for mods. there are tons of conversations about mods..
Old June-2nd-2003 | 08:48 PM
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the 94+ Miata has basically the same 1.8 DOHC as ours(see below). the problem is the miata is RWD - thus the engine is mounted longitudinally. our FWD 1.8 is mounted transversely. thus headers, intakes, turbo kits for the miata do NOT interchange.

engine parts such as cam gears, pistons, valves, rods, etc DO interchange.

the good news is that our FWD pro was offered as a turbo model overseas, thus you CAN get turbo stuff for the pro.

a side note....our 1.8 came *stock* with a MBSP - Main Bearing Support Plate. AFAIK the 1.8 miata didn't get it until '01
the miata 1.8, though, over time got hotter cams, a better head, and solid lifters.
Old June-17th-2003 | 01:02 AM
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just wondering exactly ....which 1.8l motor you are implying when you say it came stock with the main bearing support plate.... Are you implying the LX model 1.8l's or are you implying the turbocharged 1.8l???
Old June-17th-2003 | 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Bruce95fmla
just use the search function for , looking for mods. there are tons of conversations about mods..
Bruce, normally, solid advice, unfortunately the seach engine is NOT returning everything ...

http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/sho...=240777&t=2051

The US LX had the MBSP. I think even my SOHC has one.
Old June-17th-2003 | 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by bpt323
just wondering exactly ....which 1.8l motor you are implying when you say it came stock with the main bearing support plate.... Are you implying the LX model 1.8l's or are you implying the turbocharged 1.8l???
yep, as Chastan said, the us LX model - and IIRC, even the SOHC (the only thing it doesn't have stock is the oil cooler).

evidently mazda just decided to 'build' them all the same way; and top them off with different pistons and heads depending on whether they were na or fi...
Old June-17th-2003 | 10:29 PM
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1.8l's in U.S> stock form has a 3 stage stock oil cooler....the GTR block has a 5 stage.....Double check your sources
Old June-17th-2003 | 10:42 PM
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The head from a Miata will not work in the Protege (easily anyway). The Miata uses a DIS type ignition system for one. In addition to that, the thermostat housing is on the wrong end of the head (front on the Miata, back on the Protege)
Old June-18th-2003 | 06:23 PM
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What is the DIS ignition system????
AND what about the CAS being removed? 99+ models
Old June-18th-2003 | 08:10 PM
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The head from a Miata will not work in the Protege (easily anyway). The Miata uses a DIS type ignition system for one. In addition to that, the thermostat housing is on the wrong end of the head (front on the Miata, back on the Protege)
After further research, I have discovered that a Miata head WILL work. Castings are available on both ends of the head for the thermostat housing. You would need to plug the coolant passage on the front side (cam gear side) and unplug the coolant passage and possibly tap the bosses for the thermostat housing on the backside of the head (distributor side).

However, only the head from the 94-97 MY Miatas will work. The heads on the 99+ MY Miatas are taller and the intake/exhaust ports are a bit different.

I appologize for the mistake.
Old June-19th-2003 | 01:24 AM
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Hey im really interested in trying towards putting a 99-00' miata head on my DOHC pro block... but im looking for advice and more research information....Is anyone willing to help me out....
looking for as much nformation as possible...
thanks
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