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Old January-20th-2004 | 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by scottie855
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"Torque breaks transmissions not HP.
The Strongest G series boxes can hold roughly 350FTlbs of torque before they go south"
TRUE but just did not state the answer in torque but in hp. but for the 500 little ponys that will be hinden in the engine bay then the torque will be almost there too right. RIGHT
Not necessarily. look at the RX-8, Honda S2000. to name a couple.
high HP doesn't always = high torque
nor does high torque always = high HP
Not trying to be a dick, but just stating fact.

so there is no way to get the gearbox any stronger?
Like I said in the post above.
CRYO treatment or SHOTPEENING.
Old January-20th-2004 | 08:36 PM
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forget about the wheel bearing they are not a problem they will hold. Go on http://erdtforum.teamzx2.com/ there one name 545hpgt he has a bp powered escort gt that makes 545hp on the dyno he may have other answer for you and has before i really wonder what type of set-up your are going to run. Sorry about that it's just that many people come here and claim they are going to make a "500hp" car and have no clues at all of what it takes to go there and ask all sort of question for nothing, you may not be one of them only time will tell use
Old January-20th-2004 | 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by midnightblue97
How do stronger axles make the tranny stronger??
I mean that the kia axles are bigger in diameter so they can hold more power before they broke up. so thats what I mean when I say is more stronger, ok.
Old January-21st-2004 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by atila
Sorry about that it's just that many people come here and claim they are going to make a "500hp" car and have no clues at all of what it takes to go there and ask all sort of question for nothing, you may not be one of them only time will tell use
It takes a lot to get 500+ hp, even with a V8 (not including nitrous). I own 2 musclecars besides my Pro, a '72 Dodge Dart (stock) and a '68 Dodge SuperBee (drag car). I'm going to be taking the Bee to get it dyno'd this spring, and I'm looking for about 600rwhp (n/a) + nitrous. Should put that car in the high 10's / low 11's (weighs ~3300lbs w/ driver)
Old January-21st-2004 | 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by atila
forget about the wheel bearing they are not a problem they will hold. Go on http://erdtforum.teamzx2.com/ there one name 545hpgt he has a bp powered escort gt that makes 545hp on the dyno he may have other answer for you and has before i really wonder what type of set-up your are going to run. Sorry about that it's just that many people come here and claim they are going to make a "500hp" car and have no clues at all of what it takes to go there and ask all sort of question for nothing, you may not be one of them only time will tell use
i was just about to post that link.
Old January-21st-2004 | 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by mazdprotege94
I mean that the kia axles are bigger in diameter so they can hold more power before they broke up. so thats what I mean when I say is more stronger, ok.
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The mazda DOHC tranny will not hold so much power but a kia sephia tranny will hold the power because the axles are more heavy..
That still doesn't explain how these axles can make the tranny stronger.
Old January-21st-2004 | 03:47 PM
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My pops has a '67 mustang running 8.90's well not anymore.

The snout on the crankshaft sheared off and needless to say...it's in need of a rebuild. the crank alone is gonna cost $2500 custom unit.

Sorry to go off topic.....oh wait n/m...

i really do not want to go into the engine now but higher compression, very high boost with a small shot more than likely wet shot.
I thik if this guy was serious about these numbers he wouldn't still be contemplating on a "wet" or "dry" set-up.
Old January-21st-2004 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by Tweeaks
My pops has a '67 mustang running 8.90's well not anymore.

The snout on the crankshaft sheared off and needless to say...it's in need of a rebuild. the crank alone is gonna cost $2500 custom unit.

Sorry to go off topic.....oh wait n/m...



I thik if this guy was serious about these numbers he wouldn't still be contemplating on a "wet" or "dry" set-up.
agreed.
Old January-21st-2004 | 06:45 PM
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tweeaks it's the first time i see your car and it's really nice great work
Old January-21st-2004 | 06:48 PM
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only reason i even explored the topic was simply to cover it...and to elaborate on my comment about lugs, i guess a simpler explaination would have been to say they need to be welded in,or you risk snapping them off,which will cause lugs nuts to go flying like bullets...especially on a full throttle launch in a 500hp car....however i never thought this guy was serious about his claim...although not impossible its very unlikely he will have a 500 hp bp...i can beleive 300-350 with 15+ lbs of boost, which is very do-able...but 500 is pushing it without some serious money
Old January-21st-2004 | 07:13 PM
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Thanks I am going to try and re-paint it here in a month or two.
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Originally posted by midnightblue97
That still doesn't explain how these axles can make the tranny stronger.
Wathever you want to understand the thing is the kia tranny was the only one that could handle the power of my friend 323 daily driven fwd running 10 sec 1/4 milles. I have not read any of you guys running in a 323 or protege fwd this time with the protege tranny ore any other.
Old January-22nd-2004 | 10:56 AM
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i heard that you can get +2hp with a k&n air filter maybe hes going to use 250 of them
Old January-22nd-2004 | 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by bivery
i heard that you can get +2hp with a k&n air filter maybe hes going to use 250 of them
Old January-22nd-2004 | 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by mazdprotege94
Wathever you want to understand the thing is the kia tranny was the only one that could handle the power of my friend 323 daily driven fwd running 10 sec 1/4 milles. I have not read any of you guys running in a 323 or protege fwd this time with the protege tranny ore any other.
So more than likely the CASE was stronger, not the axles.
Dave Lauzier's ~10sec MX3 was daily driven as I understand. He wasn't breaking transmissions on a daily basis, but it happened quite often. He was actually breaking the transmission case.
The axles will not make the tranny stronger.



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