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Old March-23rd-2003 | 01:16 AM
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Question muffler installation help

hey everyone. i recently bought a muffler that looks just like this:
[IMG]C:\My Documents\My Pictures\muffler.art[/IMG]
It is a universal muffler and i need to know how to go about installing it. I need to know where to get some hangers to put on it, I heard there is a kind if band hanger that straps around the muffler. And I also need to know how to make my stock pipes fit onto the muffler which is like 2.25 inches. Any help would be much appreciated.
Old March-23rd-2003 | 01:24 AM
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Pic does not work.

I would guess that you will have to weld the new muffler on. In that case, if you do not have the equipment, take it to a shop. They shouldn't charge you more than $50 for install.

As for the hangers, I had the shop use my original ones when I was puting on my muffler. They just welded them to the side (towards the very back) of the actual muffler. Obviously, it is not visible
Old March-23rd-2003 | 12:30 PM
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When i got my muffler i went ahead and went new pipe from the cat conv. and it only cost me $75 for everything (except muffler). But i asked how much to just install the muffler and they told me 25.
Old March-23rd-2003 | 01:26 PM
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Yeah dude you're better off just having the shop do new piping. Unless your car has had a recent exhaust job, you've probably got leaks. New exhaust + new muffler will sound a lot better. Otherwise you'll have that annoying "puffffit" sound
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thanks for the input guys. i have another question. i have heard about this pacemark exhaust for the protege and was wondering if it would be a good investment for my car. it isn't that expensive, but i am wondering if any of you guys know how it performs and how it sounds. thanks a lot.
Old March-26th-2003 | 01:21 AM
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I have never personally heard it, but I was wondering the same thing a while back and someone said it sounds like ****. Again, that's just hear-say though.
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i have also heard mixed reviews about it. some people say it sounds like crap and others like it. i am just wondering what people's opinions are on this particular exhaust because it is pretty cheap and is a direct bolt on, so would be an easy afternoon project.
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Originally posted by mustangjosh67
i have also heard mixed reviews about it. some people say it sounds like crap and others like it. i am just wondering what people's opinions are on this particular exhaust because it is pretty cheap and is a direct bolt on, so would be an easy afternoon project.
Well it's been R&D'd so it's goign to be a little better than some custom setups, but it's 2.5" instead of 2.25", and with N/A that's a little big so you might actually lose performance. If you get it, let me know because I may get that instead of doing 2.5" mandrel custom exhaust when the BPT is installed.
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Pacemark ??? Did you mean Pacesetter ??? If yes, then don't buy it because I've heard that it rusts really quickly. Well, if you live in a state where it's summer all year long then maybe it'll be a good investment
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Originally posted by Identity_X
Pacemark ??? Did you mean Pacesetter ??? If yes, then don't buy it because I've heard that it rusts really quickly. Well, if you live in a state where it's summer all year long then maybe it'll be a good investment
I didn't even realize you said pacemark. Maybe I Should stop reading so fast
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i didn't even realize that i wrote pacemark either. i meant pacesetter. my tires are pacemark so maybe i kind of mixed them up when i posted my question.
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by the way, does anyone have a pic of their car with the pacesetter installed?
Old April-14th-2003 | 11:47 AM
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Depends on if you have hangers on the muffler already or not. i had them welded on my muffler when i bought it then took it to a shop and they cut off my stock muffler and used the axle back piping to install the muffler.

Cost me $40 for them to put it on. Not bad

If you dont have hangars, Id say like $60 to weld on the hangars and install it. Shouldnt be any more than that
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