MAX wHP 2.0l
April-21st-2005 | 12:14 PM
#16
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he is running the unichip which he said has been re-tuned...maybe this is one of the things that was accounted for in the re-tune.
I'd love to see 260whp out of 10psi on a T25 but I dont think it's happening. My msp with intake, cat-delete pipe and 10psi only made 170-ish at the wheels. He'd have to come up with another 100whp from a fmic and unichip. Seeing as how stock unichip cars show 0hp gain (only smoother driveability) I find it hard to believe in.
I'd love to see 260whp out of 10psi on a T25 but I dont think it's happening. My msp with intake, cat-delete pipe and 10psi only made 170-ish at the wheels. He'd have to come up with another 100whp from a fmic and unichip. Seeing as how stock unichip cars show 0hp gain (only smoother driveability) I find it hard to believe in.
April-21st-2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom Cruiser
'Cept for me...I make lots of low hp claims and always back them up 
I don't have an excuse, other than an empty bank account.
April-23rd-2005 | 01:31 AM
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uhmm... before this goes south and every one looses interest
i wanted to know numbers of real cars...not "what i plan to do"
or "what my uncle's brothers half-cousin's car" does (no offence Phantom i know your on the level)
i realy want to know whats possible and how it got done
'cause people like to dog on the poor little protege
has anyone used these guys?
http://www.racingmazda.com/fsseries-...rebuilding.htm
i wanted to know numbers of real cars...not "what i plan to do"
or "what my uncle's brothers half-cousin's car" does (no offence Phantom i know your on the level)
i realy want to know whats possible and how it got done
'cause people like to dog on the poor little protege
has anyone used these guys?
http://www.racingmazda.com/fsseries-...rebuilding.htm
April-23rd-2005 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mattsstang87
Explain further???
BOVs are BAD with an MAF system.
BOVs are BAD with an MAF system.
The MAF (Mass Air Flow) meters the amount of air flowing past a certain point and the PCM calculates an appropriate amount of fuel accordingly. If the BOV is after the MAF, the MAF feeds an inaccurate reading to the PCM when the BOV is open and the A/F ratio is thrown off. This isn't a big issue if the BOV only opens between shifts. However, if the BOV is open during acceleration in order to limit the amount of boost, the engine will run too rich. Robbing power. Having the MAF after the BOV makes the MAF reading more accurate.
April-25th-2005 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GNO
No, they are not BAD, but moving the MAF to a point after the BOV is good.
The MAF (Mass Air Flow) meters the amount of air flowing past a certain point and the PCM calculates an appropriate amount of fuel accordingly. If the BOV is after the MAF, the MAF feeds an inaccurate reading to the PCM when the BOV is open and the A/F ratio is thrown off. This isn't a big issue if the BOV only opens between shifts. However, if the BOV is open during acceleration in order to limit the amount of boost, the engine will run too rich. Robbing power. Having the MAF after the BOV makes the MAF reading more accurate.
The MAF (Mass Air Flow) meters the amount of air flowing past a certain point and the PCM calculates an appropriate amount of fuel accordingly. If the BOV is after the MAF, the MAF feeds an inaccurate reading to the PCM when the BOV is open and the A/F ratio is thrown off. This isn't a big issue if the BOV only opens between shifts. However, if the BOV is open during acceleration in order to limit the amount of boost, the engine will run too rich. Robbing power. Having the MAF after the BOV makes the MAF reading more accurate.
Okay. I wasn't sure about you MAF positioning. I agree with you on this, but I am still a big believer in a bypass for boost levels from 8-15psi (even higher if it is big enough). The bypass STILL makes the cool sound everyone wants, and if placed close enough to the turbo inlet will have the added effect of helping the turbo spool between shifts. Yes, a BOV does this too, but just don't under estimate the Bypass. I have seen NMRA Super Steet Outlaw Mustangs with hard tubing bypass systems with FAST EFI. These guys are running upwards of 30-35psi of boost both turbo and supercharged. Pluss they are trying to 2000+ hp to the ground on 10.5" tires with no boost controls.
May-6th-2005 | 04:38 PM
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My protege has touched 224whp @ ~10psi
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
May-6th-2005 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by igdrasil
My protege has touched 224whp @ ~10psi
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
"620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions."
I wonder why?
May-6th-2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by igdrasil
My protege has touched 224whp @ ~10psi
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
so 224whp on 10psi hmmmm what else is under the hood cause 10psi by itself sure as hell is not going to do it also dyno sheets gotta see dyno sheets...Not doughting just wondering
May-6th-2005 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by igdrasil
My protege has touched 224whp @ ~10psi
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
Another guy here in PR has touched 487whp on his Microtech Protege5 overbored.
My friend in his FS powered 323 has done 580whp and later on 620whp but having a lot of problems with transmissions.
And yeah kargoboy...I wonder...lol
May-9th-2005 | 10:29 AM
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First thing first...yes I have a Spool Turbo Kit on the Protege5, that dyno was @ 10psi aprox. Heres the dyno:
http://home.coqui.net/igdrasil/mpi/igdrasildyno9psi.gif
About the 620whp fs motor...
Just FYI, the STOCK transmission cannot handle 500whp on slicks on the dyno. They are using other gears that now doesnt hold for 620whp on the tracks, they actually hold for like 15-20 runs.
http://home.coqui.net/igdrasil/mpi/igdrasildyno9psi.gif
About the 620whp fs motor...
Just FYI, the STOCK transmission cannot handle 500whp on slicks on the dyno. They are using other gears that now doesnt hold for 620whp on the tracks, they actually hold for like 15-20 runs.
Last edited by igdrasil; May-9th-2005 at 10:33 AM.