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Old June-7th-2003 | 08:36 AM
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Need Headers on ES GT

Good day everybody,

I want to install headers on my Protegé ES GT (2.0) and I'd like your input on models and quality products. What company makes them and a price range if possible.

If some of you had some problems or else with their headers please let me know. I am looking at installing them by end of june.

Thank you.
Old June-7th-2003 | 02:20 PM
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Run a search no headers. Currently, there aren't really any direct bolt ons available yet. You can modify the OBX probe/mx6 header. There's also AWR who makes the racing headers. Ractive should have some out in 4-6 weeks, but pricing isn't available yet.
Old June-7th-2003 | 04:02 PM
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Traveler was making one if I remember correctly. Try a pm to him. Good luck
Old June-7th-2003 | 06:04 PM
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There is a company in Cambridge, Ontario. Essential Speed. They have a header for the 2.0L engine and are supposed to be doing a test install and dyno on one of the members from toprotege in the next week.

That will probably end up being the best value for you. I think their design retains the primary cat.
Old June-7th-2003 | 08:08 PM
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yup no legal direct bolt on headers yet. many people still waiting for one. good luck
Old June-7th-2003 | 11:30 PM
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Here's the thread about the Essential Speed header
http://msg.toprotege.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=;act=ST;f=4;t=6344
Old June-8th-2003 | 12:40 PM
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If you get the Bosal 4-2-1 header for the 2.0l probe/mx-6 it will 'bolt up', but you will need to do some modifications for the rest of it...
Old June-8th-2003 | 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser
If you get the Bosal 4-2-1 header for the 2.0l probe/mx-6 it will 'bolt up', but you will need to do some modifications for the rest of it...
The only thing you have to modify is the placement of the O2 sensor.
Old June-8th-2003 | 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Maxx Mazda


The only thing you have to modify is the placement of the O2 sensor.
..sure..whatever you say...
Old June-8th-2003 | 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser


..sure..whatever you say...
What? That's all it takes!
Old June-8th-2003 | 11:50 PM
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That and either welding an additional section into the supplied pipe that comes with the header or (bad idea) cutting the header down to make it fit. Dont forget slotting the holes in the flanges to make them mate up. You also need to adapt for the EGR. The placement is completely wrong and the angle is off too. Physically, it does bolt right to the head but you are going to have to do some rigging to make it work.

Maxx - Have you even done this mod or are you benchracing?
Old June-10th-2003 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser
That and either welding an additional section into the supplied pipe that comes with the header or (bad idea) cutting the header down to make it fit. Dont forget slotting the holes in the flanges to make them mate up. You also need to adapt for the EGR. The placement is completely wrong and the angle is off too. Physically, it does bolt right to the head but you are going to have to do some rigging to make it work.

Maxx - Have you even done this mod or are you benchracing?
He's benchracing LOL. I didn't realize that there was that much modding to get that to fit right. I wish OBX had gone through w/ the manufacturing of their headers. I also hear that Ractive should have one in a few weeks and pricing will be available then. It's going to be a 2 piece. Nickel-Zinc plated steel. Direct bolt in w/ the o2 sensor bung in the first cat welded on already. I'm gonna wait and see.
Old June-10th-2003 | 06:44 PM
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We will try to post a pic of the extra section of pipe we had to fabricate. This is not impossible to do but you need the right tools for the job.
Old June-10th-2003 | 08:22 PM
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I just phone AWR this afternoon. The headers they make eliminates the first cat completely. 4-2-1 design. 304 stainless steel. 495USD. They don't make the mild steel one anymore that was going for 375USD. It won't throw a CEL. It's got the "bungs" for the 2 sensors. They were currently having a fitment problem on their first batch and didnt' line up w/the EGT ports(? forgot ). But they said it's been fixed and anyone can order them now. The latest batch they did was from a template off a 2003 p5. I wasn't sure if there were any differences in the 2002 and 2003 layout, but they were having problems w/ fitment. Seems to be all fixed now. As for gains, they didn't give me any numbers yet. They'll have numbers in a few weeks. I might just go ahead and buy these in a month or so.
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