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Old September-5th-2002 | 07:58 PM
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Unhappy Rough idling

About 3 months ago I was sitting in a traffic jam and my idling speed almost went to like 100 RPM and it almost stalled but then it reved up again. I complained to the dealership about this and guy told me that they checked the engine but no error codes.
After that it used to happen on and off when i am at a red light.
but just yesterday it started happening more frequently more like every time I come to a red light my engine goes down to 100 rpm and back up again. Almost seems like its on a timer or something.
Everything is stock except I installed a custom RAM air intake about 2 months ago.
If any of you have had the same problem I would lile to here about it.
And any help would be greatly appreciated.
Old September-5th-2002 | 09:02 PM
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Check out the vacuum tubes. It seems that one of them may have a leak, this will cause rough idling.
Old September-5th-2002 | 10:26 PM
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sounds to me like your IAC valve is dirty and getting stuck. if your vacuum lines had a leak it would pull up a 401 or a 402. could also be that with your home made intake that either your sucking up tomuch air cause of a leak in the intake or something similiar to that and the MAF is freaking out and confusing the ecu to add to much fuel. if your checking for vacuum leaks look at the boots of the lines and check to see if any of them are warped at all, put if there is a vacuum leak it sohuld pull a code
Old September-6th-2002 | 12:43 AM
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did you happen to have the a/c running, or was the fan just turning on? the car will drop rpm's when the fan or the a/c compressor kicks in. the stock tachometers are sometimes off, so it may just have felt like it was gonna stall but the rpms may not have actually been that low.
Old September-10th-2002 | 01:19 PM
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Unhappy dipping idle

Same problem here. The idle would drop when sitting for a extended period of time with the stock intake and with my aftermarket intake installed, With fan off and on, with a/c off. No problems when the a/c is on.
Old September-10th-2002 | 09:36 PM
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I've had the same problem. It seems to happen after a long highway stint. The only mod I've done is remove the excess duct work from the stock intake.

I'm very interested in a possible repairs.
Old September-10th-2002 | 10:02 PM
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same problem....SOLVED!!!

Throtle valve, the engine is sucking too much air, I just adjusted the opening of the trottle valve and test a new setting everyday, until today, now is much more responsive and idle is at 800rpm+-
Old September-12th-2002 | 09:17 AM
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Same problem and getting worse. So, where is the adjustment for the throttle valve and details on finding the best setting? I don't have time to take it to the dealer.

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Old September-15th-2002 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Rough idling

Originally posted by tattu
About 3 months ago I was sitting in a traffic jam and my idling speed almost went to like 100 RPM and it almost stalled but then it reved up again. I complained to the dealership about this and guy told me that they checked the engine but no error codes.
After that it used to happen on and off when i am at a red light.
but just yesterday it started happening more frequently more like every time I come to a red light my engine goes down to 100 rpm and back up again.
You must be reading your tachometer wrong. Our tachs have no tick marks between 0 and 500 RPM. The first small tick is at 600 RPM. Had it actually gone to 100 it would have stalled. Normal idle is about 725 on mine... perhaps yours dropped to 550? If you counted back from 1000 and thought each small tick was 200, maybe you could arrive at 100. Any thoughts?
Old September-16th-2002 | 11:14 AM
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idling

no i was reading it right it did drop down quite low may be not 100RPM but it went down till it almost stalled and RPMs were done there.
Anyways having said that I took my custom air intake out and reinstalled it and the problem is gone.
Could the temprature probe that goes in the intake have anything to do with the problem? If it wasn't sitting in all the way.
Because i put my intake back in exactly the same as it was before. So i am a bit confused.
Old September-16th-2002 | 04:07 PM
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Hey Tattu - Did you disconnect your battery? I also took of all the intake stuff from the air cleaner box forward and my 5 idles like crap. I think I read you need to reset the computer by disconnecting the battery when changing intakes. mmmm just a thought. I will try the battery thing tonight.
Old September-16th-2002 | 08:55 PM
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mine does that too, WTF is up with that? i have a custom catback exhaust+InJenCAI
Old September-17th-2002 | 12:32 AM
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yes I disconnected the battery while i was doing my intake.
Old September-17th-2002 | 05:04 PM
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OK - Last night I disconnected my battery for about 5 minutes. After putting 50 miles on the Flyer with sitting at the gate for 15 minutes to get into work, it idles much better. It still drops but only 100 RPM or so from the normal 800 to 850 RPM. No more dropping until it almost stalls. It is still going to the dealer when I get time......time ... what's that......
Old January-27th-2003 | 03:38 PM
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Yeah my car does the same thing. Anyone take it to the dealer to get looked at? Any fixes?



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