MR2 and "sports car" is a stretch. MR2 and economy car sounds more resonable to me.

 

Yeah, I would agree. M3 is fast-period. If Corolla has +10 hp, I don't care and those who do should have bought "faster" car(Corolla) in first place.
Alex

 

According to Edmunds.com, the corrola only has 125 hp.

 

maybe mazda ment that the protege is CAPABLE of having 130HP, after

CAI, CB Exhaust, exhaust header, HC pistons, I/E cams, turbo lol

 

I didn't say I expected the Protege to be faster than the Corolla, etc. I know it is. What I was trying to get at is the possibility if Mazda would play these tricks again. If it is, then it's false advertising and they should give us some compensation of some sort.

 

So who is going to volunteer to rip their engine out and test this theory ????!!!!

 

I knew I saw it somewhere. I don't think this is where I saw it but it says it. Even though we finished first in Car and Driver, it clearly says that the Carolla is faster. Just read under the Carolla.
I've actually seen numbers posted, but this is all I could find for now.

http://caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddri...otege&class=43

 

My definition of sports car is something fast. Again, thats MY definition, so Im sure others have other opinions.

 

What tricks are you talking about? has Mazda been busted previously for bad HP numbers, similar to Ford and the Cobra bust a couple years ago?

I would think it safe to assume that the vast majority of Mazda owners are looking for a cheap, reliable car and could care less if the HP is what it is supposed to be.

My car is supposed to have 122 hp? Does it? It is geared really low, so who knows? Im used to driving cars with a lot more power, so it could have 90 HP and I wouldnt be able to tell the difference.

 

I would say most cars making 300-400 Hp are fast, especially light weight cars like the ones you mentioned.

135 HP is a slow car, period. Maybe it can make turns fast, and runs good on a track where you have to make a lot of truns, but its slow in my book.


16.0 in the 1/4 mile is extremely slow.

I think any car running low 13's on street tires or faster is fast.

 

Well, come on, I can make a track that my riding lawn mower will lap faster than any car. Does that mean my riding lawn mower is fast?

 

my definition of fast

AE86 3x rotor engine makeing 800HP to the wheels (i have a video somewhere)

 

Still, its not a matter of whether the Protege5 is fast or slow etc, and 300-400hp cars overpower it. I don't care about that. The issue here is professional ethics, it they advertised that it has 130hp and it really doesn't its called false advertising. And it hurts both customers and the company alike.

How many times do I have to explain stuff sometimes?

 

It doesnt hurt me, and Im a customer. I dont care how much HP my Protege has. If I wanted a lot of horsepower, I wouldnt have bought a protege in the first place. There are two points of view to this, and that is mine.

I can understand your concern though, but Im not sure there is much you can do.

In the Ford Cobra incident, many people tune Cobras and therefore many people had them dynoed. Along with the huge magazine market and publicity that the mustang gets, word got out that the cars were underpowered, and Ford decided to correct it and recalled all the cars.

If the Protege is underpowered to what it is supposed to be, and it very well may be, youll have to have proof and publicity to get Mazda to act.

Good luck.

 

So Mazda claimed a HP increase with the Miatas in the past and it was proven to be incorrect?

I wasnt aware of this. What did they do about it?