No mention of the Lancer Revolution? Great article in Car & Driver with a comparison of the Mitsu and the Sub.

 

We answered his question. His only real question was which has more aftermarket support. Most of us replied: WRX.

We can't tell him which one is better. That's for him to decide after he takes both for a test drive.


I think it has more to do with the tires than the soft suspension and ride height. The tires are crappy all-season Bridgestone RE-92s. The 14" Goodyear Eagle GAs that came on my old neon were better.

 

You already answered that perfectly earlier in the thread.

People were just giving their opinions on other aspects of the cars. Like I said earlier, If I just wanted a car for autocross I would buy a 95-99 Neon ACR for $1500-$5000 and keep the P5 for daily driving.

 

hello?
we're on a mazda forum.... you wanna knock the protege then go to another board... seriously i come here to read about mods and people like me who enjoy their mazda protege5 or mazdaspeed

and anyway i can tell you why i bought an Sp20...

because it is unique.... if i turbo'd it (spool, fm, hiboost) i would be unique...

every f%&in wog and his dog drives a wrx or a lancer over here because "its so modifiable" im sick of hearing people walk up to a perfect specimen on a modified car at an autosalon and hear "bro my cousins rex would kick that bbbbrrrooo thats lame"

i want to make a mod that makes my car nicer to drive, gets me appreciation for the effort (how much effort does it take to pump up the boost on a wrx? nothing computer mods and its runs more standard..... WOW!!!)

thats not car mofication that being a sheep and being "cool"

yes the wrx is a cool car, but so is the mazdaspeed, and i will not hear people knocking **** on it... im biased... why? because i drive a mazda, as with most of the people here.

let it rest!!

 

Actually this is one of the best places to ask that question. Just look at the amount of knowledge in the replies, eh?

 

Dude, calm down. No one knocked the Pro.

I couldn't agree more. If someone puts time and effort into their car to make it fast then they deserve props.

My area is hardly saturated with sport compacts (other than Hondas). There are no MSPs, P5s, SRT-4s, WRXs (except mine) in my area. The only WRX I've seen was about 30 miles west of me.

Again. No one bashed the MSP. I still don't see where you think that. Are we even reading the same thread.

The thread starter asked for opinions. That's what he got.

 

That's true but it's cheap. I can't imagine buying a new car solely for autocross when he has a nice car now.

I don't know what mods you can do in each of the SCCA classifications but have you seen the aftermarket support for the 1st gen neons? I'm sure you could have a competitive racer for under $5k.

 

dude you live in austrailia. Since there are only a few AWD cars made and the WRX is the IMO the most bang for the cheap price, it's no surprise they are so popular. Don't you guys have more trails and dirt roads than paved ones???? They really aren't that abundant driving around in the US. That may be why we like them so much. Anyhow....go take a cold shower dude. I love the MSP but i also love it enough to objectively critsize it. Cuz hey, if i was buying a car i want to know everything about it. Not just that it's a turbo protege, but what are both the good and bad aspects of the car.

 

I have a question, I don't know that much about the MSP but so far from what I've read the turbo system for the MSP isn't a good one. Would it be better to upgrade the turbo system and get rid of the one that came with the stock car? Or what about adding an addidtional turbo system onto it.?

 

you could replace the turbo with a bigger one or change the turbine or housing but adding a 2nd charger isnt worth the effort. there is just no room under there to mount or plumb a second turbo with out removing some things (like A/C system). Not to mention the heat that a 2nd turbo would create you may have to change out all the hoses so they don't fatique.

 

Point taken. Autocross is just a fun thing for me. Didn't think there were that many people who would buy a car just because it's a good autocross car. I would rather buy a good daily driver with some ability on an autocross course. Thanks for setting me straight.

 

He's in Sydney dude, not in the middle of nowhere

 

well he wouldnt be first to think that i rode in a kangaroos pounch to school...lol our for that matter had kangaroos jumping down main street.

sorry to everyone who thought i was getting fired... text msgs have a way of misguiding tone... wrx's are EVERYWHERE here they are the most stolen car in australia, if theres a robbery, a ram raid, a car escape its all done with a wrx... half our police drove wrx's a year ago(until their speedos where detected to be way off making speeding tickets way off).... hell if its a subaru wrx, or a lancer then anyone ethnic (i seem to be a hole in this theory) has to drive it...

lol

our SP20's are still pretty rare over here which i why i picked it... sexy car... the protege's over there are pretty stock compared... our protege's and astina's are what you guys have but our sp20's is much like the Sport20 in japan and the astina sp20 is your protege 5... you can also get a protege sp20 and its the same as a protege5 just the shape of a protege(sedan) same 2L and all...

just incase everyone hadnt been told yet...

not knocking wrx's or worshipping mazdaspeeds (we dont even have them here =( ) but i got the impression everyone was bowing to wrx's... give them a short light to light run and youll have a grin on your face =)

my 2c... not angry, just my 2c =) cheers

 

When I was over there in 2000 seemed like there were a lot of Ford Falcons and the like...hmmm, maybe it was just me

And do you guys even have pennies? Sorry for getting off-topic couldn't resist, I think all the bases are covered though, unless we get more information on what AcoupDetat wants to do... what class he would want to AutoX in, for example

 

ill leave it here but yes we also seem to be obsessed with ford falcons and holden commodores