irrelevant....this isnt msprotege....matty just beat me to it

you're absolutely correct except for the fact that I'm not a professional vendor. I'm an independent guy making something the community is asking for. This is neither my job nor my means of income. I'm not advertising a website where I sell other items nor am I making claims I can't back up with proof.

Also, for the past few weeks/months I've done nothing but say "updates coming, please wait".

Thanks for playing daddy but I've already got it covered.

Nothing like having a 4-post n00b chime in on something that he hasn't actually followed since inception.
This is hardly worthy of comparison.

:yelrotflm LOL

Actually I've read every single WOMP post. Just because someone lurks doesn't mean they haven't followed along.

Anyway, I did say you could ALMOST go there... Just wanted to stir the pot. :)

Greg

Well, you did, didn't you?
Mission accomplished.
Seriously, though, the WOMP thing is kind of a sensitive subject, because as I'm sure you have read then, Matty has put nothing but money and sweat into this project only to be bashed and crapped upon at every turn. If you really did read every post, you'd know that.
I hope petec comes up with something. I really do. It's much-needed for this community and it'd be great if he was successful.
Having said that, Matty has a point--a 'vendor' shouldn't advertise pricing for something that doesn't even exist.
It's a totally different thing from the WOMP.

I kind of understand your point but at the same time I wasn't specific...just ballpark. These guys just want to know that it will be less than $500 just like the rest of the SCT stuff out there = less than standalones which is prob the most popular/capable alternative.

Dyno numbers are a measurement of power gained, but isn't a true indicator of all benefits. Benefits to driveability, increased speed/rev limiters, shift firmness all add up to better performance without having to post "adds up to 75hp" like the rest of the overinflated ads out there.

We are getting with a local guy tomorrow night. Can I post anything about it without having dyno numbers???

I am trying not to spam, I personally despise spam but how in the hell do you inform without some specifics.

BTW, I did send an e-mail about Vendor status on 1/14 and have yet to get a reply. I am trying to play by the rules...

Just because nobody that posts here has it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It exists. The listed available models and years are just that...available.

I will go ahead and grant you Vendor status. You will need to send me a private message with your name, phone number (work), physical address and any other contact info you feel is important. We do this (and verify it) in order to protect our members from being scammed. It's happened a lot. We're pessimistic to say the least.

About the tuner...it HASNT been done yet and no'one we've worked with has been able to do it. The reason we're asking about HP gains and not driveability is because we have great driveability already...we need power. People pay for dyno numbers, they don't pay for "driveability". Our ecu's are VERY prohibitive to tuning. If you can produce 15whp from a handheld flasher You will make a fortune in this community. If you can provide ecu chips that will allow us to control boost without FMU's or voltage clamps you'll make a fortune. However, if you produce <10whp and only bump the rev/speed limiter then you're not going to do well here.

Our engines don't make a lot of power and the ECU is one of the main reasons. If you're effective (where no'one else ever has been) then you'll do fine.

Dyno info is crucial. It tells MANY things about your tuning ability. It tells how much power can be had with your product. It tells us what the expected AFR's will be. It gives us a clear idea of the newly adjusted power curve. It shows us exactly how much area under the curve there is. I could go on and on.... Dynos = very important.

locked until petec has vendor status....no need for further posts without actual numbers to back it up....

dyno's DO show more than horsepower gains...they show the entire power band and fuel air ratio's....people want to see it all

please email myself or matty after you have vendor status and thread will be unlocked