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Old July-31st-2002 | 04:52 PM
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Unhappy New! Zymol "film" after waxing??

hi!

i'm new to the forum, and a new Protege owner! this forum has been so helpful, so i decided to join today! after reading for hours on how to detail my car from everyone here, i bought Zymol cleaner wax and went to work! my car looks great, thanks to you guys, even if you didn't know it!

i have a question though. after waxing, under certain lighting/angles i can see what looks like an oily "film" on my car. depending on which way i run my hand on the surface of the car, the film can be seen - much like how velvet changes "color" when the fabric is pushed in certain directions. is this film normal? did i use too much wax and this is residual, or.... ??? please help!

also, for the black trim on the exterior of my car, what can i use to keep that clean and polished? should i just wash it like the rest of my car or do i need to protect it in some way since i'm not waxing it? what kind of material is that trim?

thanks a lot for any advice you guys have!
Old July-31st-2002 | 04:55 PM
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i'm having the same wax film problem with turtle wax. i was actually going to post about it today but you beat me to it.
Old July-31st-2002 | 05:02 PM
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Too much wax, IMO. What you can do is get some quick detailer and spray that on and go over the spots. That sometimes helps.

I only had that problem w/ nu-finish. Ever since switching to Mother's I haven't had a problem...

I actually saw a nice P5 last night parked on the street...but when I got close up, I saw wax streaks EVERYWHERE!! So sad

For black (rubber/plastic) trim, I highly suggest 303 Aerospace protectant. Water-based so it will eventually wash off in the rain, but it has UV protectants in it, and it leaves a nice matte (factory) finish, not a high gloss one.

You could also use Mother's Back to Black or something similar.
Old July-31st-2002 | 05:11 PM
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Also try these links....
http://www.autopia.ws/forums/showthr...ht=wax+streaks

http://www.autopia.ws/forums/showthr...ht=wax+streaks

http://www.autopia.ws/forums/showthr...ht=wax+streaks
Old July-31st-2002 | 06:37 PM
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I used zymol once and I seem to remember it saying that after you wax to go over it with a damp towel to even on the wax. I only used it once then switched to zaino muck easier and better in my opinion.

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Old July-31st-2002 | 06:50 PM
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I love this wax!!!!! I just finished my car today, and it looks better than when I picked it up from the dealer. NO SWIRL MARKS I used detailer after and no streaks.
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I have received the same results using the Zymol on my Midnight Blue Mica P5. I found that using less, and following the removal of the wax with a clean terry cloth towel to buff helps. Also using spray detailer (Eagle One Wet) after removing all of the wax and the buff helps take care of any imperfections in the wax..

Last wax I did on the P5 was Meguiar's Gold Class, and I didn't notice the film as much as I did with the Zymol..

I'm looking into getting some Zaino to try.. Have seen photos and have been very impressed..

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Old July-31st-2002 | 06:53 PM
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zymol film

I use Zaino, too and agree it is much better. But easier?? I don't know about that. I used Zymol before Zaino
Old August-1st-2002 | 02:34 AM
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thanks for your help! i will try "baking" the car and then removing the rest with quick detailer.

is there an easy method for determining how much wax is too much wax? do you guys have any tricks on applying a thin coat? for instance, a quarter sized spot of liquid zymol should cover approximately how much area of the car, etc?

also, i read that the applicator pad should be dampened a little bit before putting on the wax. is this bad in any way compared to not wetting it?

thanks!
Old August-1st-2002 | 10:40 AM
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I don't see any real advantage in wetting it first. If you're really worried, give it a shot of quick detailer first, then put the wax on.

Not sure if there's any trick to applying "just" enough...Just don't glob the wax on and apply haphazardly. I don't think there's a hard and fast rule in regards to "blob size" and area of panel covered. However, I do think it's easier to define a section (ie. hood, roof, etc.) and work that area and make sure it's completed before moving on to the next area.

Also, I put more product on my applicator when it looks like no more product is being put down....which is easy to do on a black car, but I imagine it would be difficult on white/silver/yellow ones.


Hope that helps a bit
Old August-2nd-2002 | 03:31 AM
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barefoot_gal...i know this was a post about zymol, but your name ROCKS! okay ppl, i like feet, so what.

foxymazda, you wouldn't happen to be the one with the "scratches" on your car (from sounddomain)?

me wanna try zymol, but my meguiar's works so well and the shine is so deep, it's hard to switch at the moment.
Old August-2nd-2002 | 06:03 AM
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Buy a spray bottle and some distilled water. Spray a little on like the one link said after letting the car set in the sun for 15-20 minutes and taking back in the garage. Buff with clean, dry soft cloth. This "sets" the Zymol and hardens it up for a very high gloss shine without the cloudiness. Low tech, but it works. Not sure why, any chemistry majors out there?
Old August-2nd-2002 | 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Pro_fan
I actually saw a nice P5 last night parked on the street...but when I got close up, I saw wax streaks EVERYWHERE!! So sad

it wasn't 24th ave NW was it? if it was, that was my car.
Old August-2nd-2002 | 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by alcoholiday

it wasn't 24th ave NW was it? if it was, that was my car.
Umm.... YEAH! Right by the Fraternity house, IIRC. Or somewhere close to there....right before you get to the church on the corner of 24th Ave and 24th St. NW.

That's hilarious!!! I live like 2 blocks down from there...by the United Rental place!!!!!

Small city after all!


Umm...to steer my post on topic, if you guys haven't tried a micro-fiber towel yet, I really suggest getting some. They are FANTASTIC!

There's many different kinds out there, but the best I've found are 70/30 blend and are very plush.

For your car's paint, don't get the ones that are smooth and feel like seude. Save those for windows and glass.
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