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Old November-19th-2002 | 09:20 AM
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Unhappy noise from rear right wheel.

I don't know, when this happened, recently i am hearing noise from back.
It seems like something is stuck in my right rear wheel, It sounds like scratching, but i can't find anything that causes this noise...
maybe it's time for wheel alignment? or something serious problem with my car.
Anybody have or had same problem or know problem, help~
Old November-19th-2002 | 10:40 AM
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I have the exact same problem. I don't know why, it might be the rotors. Anyway my car is actually in the shop today for this, but the mechanics are having trouble reproducing the sound. It seems to be actually worse when it's cold out. I'll let you know what they do with mine.
Old November-19th-2002 | 10:43 AM
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yup

I get the exact same thing, happens EVERY morning, when i'm driving slow u can hear it coming from the rear left wheel, whining squeeky sounds, but after awhile it's gone.

i mean, how can it be the brakes every morning from the SAME wheel?

i'll have the mechanics check it on my 16,000 km checkup.
Old November-19th-2002 | 10:44 AM
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Hey guys, Thank you for the info.
I know, i hear that noise when i'm driving slowly.
Please let me know the progress of your car noise.
Old November-19th-2002 | 11:25 AM
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I get the same noise as well. The noise seems to be most noticable in the morning or after the car has been sitting for a while. Usually it goes away after driving for a few hundred feet or so. I am not sure what it is just yet, but it is slightly annoying.
Old November-19th-2002 | 01:02 PM
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You guys might just be hearing rust and deposit buildup on the rotors.

And it's possible that it *sounds* like it's coming from the right rear, but just might seem that way - or the sound from the right rear might seem louder from the driver's seat, etc. so you think it's only that wheel making noise.

Your rotors will start to get surface rust almost the second you stop the car. I know there have been rainy weekends where I didn't go out at all, and I find LOTS of surface rust on the rotors monday morning.

Drive a few hundred feet, and the pads sweep it away. It's perfectly normal.

Just a possibility, that's all. Especially with so many people reporting the same symptoms.

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Old November-19th-2002 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by hihoslva
You guys might just be hearing rust and deposit buildup on the rotors.

And it's possible that it *sounds* like it's coming from the right rear, but just might seem that way - or the sound from the right rear might seem louder from the driver's seat, etc. so you think it's only that wheel making noise.

Your rotors will start to get surface rust almost the second you stop the car. I know there have been rainy weekends where I didn't go out at all, and I find LOTS of surface rust on the rotors monday morning.

Drive a few hundred feet, and the pads sweep it away. It's perfectly normal.

Just a possibility, that's all. Especially with so many people reporting the same symptoms.

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I don't think so. That's what I thought too but it's a reoccuring event. If this was the case then it would not happen for an entire month every time I begin to drive. Thanks though....
Old November-19th-2002 | 02:37 PM
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I don't think so. That's what I thought too but it's a reoccuring event. If this was the case then it would not happen for an entire month every time I begin to drive. Thanks though....
The rust IS a re-occurring event however - it'll form just about every time you leave the car. Come back in the morning, and there will be a thin rust film on the rotors. Sometimes, in just a matter of a few hours if it's humid outside.

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Old November-19th-2002 | 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by hihoslva


The rust IS a re-occurring event however - it'll form just about every time you leave the car. Come back in the morning, and there will be a thin rust film on the rotors. Sometimes, in just a matter of a few hours if it's humid outside.

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Your telling me that it could be re-occuring rust which happens every day (especially when it's cold). I personally have never heard of this. But supposing that this is the case, what could one do to eliminate this problem. I have never had this happen on a brand new car before. In addition, at least in my case, I checked the rotors in the morning once or twice and I never saw any kind of rust.
Old November-19th-2002 | 03:34 PM
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Your telling me that it could be re-occuring rust which happens every day (especially when it's cold).
Absolutley

But supposing that this is the case, what could one do to eliminate this problem.
Nothing you can do - it's perfectly normal, and happens on EVERY car (unless you've got a Porsche with ceramic rotors). It's possible you just never heard it on any other car before. They may have had quiter cabins, louder engines, louder exhausts, etc.

Also - I'm not saying that this IS the problem you guys are reporting. It's just something to consider. I know I hear "scratching" every single morning from my wheels, and that it is the rotor rust - which gets rubbed off by the brake pads by the time I get down the block.

And just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not starting to "grow". Next morning, wipe the rotor with your hand - you'll probably get at least a light rusty smudge on your finger. Plus, you can't tell me you looked at the INSIDE of the rotor, too!

There is no way to prevent this rotor rust.

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Old November-19th-2002 | 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by hihoslva

Absolutley


Nothing you can do - it's perfectly normal, and happens on EVERY car (unless you've got a Porsche with ceramic rotors). It's possible you just never heard it on any other car before. They may have had quiter cabins, louder engines, louder exhausts, etc.

Also - I'm not saying that this IS the problem you guys are reporting. It's just something to consider. I know I hear "scratching" every single morning from my wheels, and that it is the rotor rust - which gets rubbed off by the brake pads by the time I get down the block.

And just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not starting to "grow". Next morning, wipe the rotor with your hand - you'll probably get at least a light rusty smudge on your finger. Plus, you can't tell me you looked at the INSIDE of the rotor, too!

There is no way to prevent this rotor rust.

~HH

No I definetly did not look inside the rotor, but this is a loud noise. The thing is the noise does not subside if you press the breaks. Actually I took it to the mechanic and I was able to reproduce it. Unfortunately when I took it back to get it fixed, the idiot could not reproduce the noise, so therefore he told me to take the car back (that's fantastic service). But the first time he heard the noise he did say that it was a problem. So this is why I am so strongly against thinking that it's just rust.
Old November-19th-2002 | 08:21 PM
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WTF!!! I get the same noise from the back only when it's cold and when I just start driving. Mine sounds kind of like a whirring low pitched ghost noise... This must be a manufacturing flaw of some kind.
Old November-20th-2002 | 01:06 PM
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Mazda service sucks. I left my car in the shop for three days, they told me they could not reproduce the sound. So on the third day I came and reproduced it for them (the second time). So now I left it for the day. What am I supposed to do. I would fix the piece of crap myself if I only knew how. They treat me like I'm crazy and I'm not justified to expect the car to be 'normal'.

Is there any consumer protection law for inability (due to incompetence I suppose) to fix a car under warranty, in Ontario, or Canada.
Old November-20th-2002 | 02:48 PM
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hey all...i'm new to this club as i bought my mp5 back in april...and this is my first post...

as for the noise, by the sounds of it, everyone has the same problem and i am no different. i have the same noise, however, i had the same noise as with my old vehicle (ford explorer sport). my gut feeling was that it was the rust buildup as hihoslva as stated in many of his postings. in the mornings i can see a lot of buildup on the rotors and driving it for a bit always gets rid of the noise. the question to bozi is "do u get the noise only in the morning or everytime u stop the car and start, i.e. red lights, stop signs, etc..." for me, it's only in the mornings.....

who knows....i had a ford and had the same noise.....ford owns mazda, right? so is this a ford issue?....who knows, but i think hihoslava is right cause the reason why the mechanic can't recreate the sound is because the rust is wiped off already....an idea would be to park ure car outside the garage and leave it there overnight. when the mechanic takes the car, he should be able to hear the sound then....

well those are my thoughts, pretty long, but hoping to talk to u guys more often......
Old November-20th-2002 | 03:11 PM
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I would also say rust as it is a usual occurance for me on my 98 voyager. Sorry for any association between a voyager and a protege, but the problem is the same. Every morning take the car through 4 slow stops as this allows a slow even polish of the disk. See if this fixes the problem. I am just saying that you guys have described my symptoms of my van to a "T". Try it! Leave the car overnight and give it a try. My garage convinced me of the whole rust thing last year as I had the same heated discussion with the mechanic. I was wrong and it was just rust! Worth a try!



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