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Old August-8th-2002, 10:27 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Water on my What

Originally posted by Patio
thats also why you should always have your pizza delivered, the delivery fee is built into the price, lol.
LOL, you are probably right, BUT I always pick up my own pizza, since you never know if the delivery guy/girl is going to give your pizza some "special sauce"...
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Old August-8th-2002, 11:09 PM
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Wow its weird to be looking on the board and actually see something correct.

All major businesses build warranty repairs and loss into the price of their products. They would go out of business otherwise because the incidentals would eat up all their profits. Do you really think it costs even 10k to build a Protege. A lot of that is profit but they have to take into account that you are probably going to bring it in for warranty work and they are going to have to pay for it, plus they wants their profits. Fact of life. Its more of an ethical question of whether you are enough of a cold ruthless bastard to actually take advantage of it.

I, for one, am a cold ruthless bastard.

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Old August-9th-2002, 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by kc5zom
Wow its weird to be looking on the board and actually see something correct.

All major businesses build warranty repairs and loss into the price of their products. They would go out of business otherwise because the incidentals would eat up all their profits.
It's NOT correct. Yes they build in the cost of warranty work for those times when their products fail in normal use. But false claims drive up the amount that they have to build in.

Think about that carefully...If there were fewer false warranty claims, there would be a decrease in the cost of doing business, if they didn't have to stockpile billions against false claims, they could maintain profit levels while charging less. You'd get the same product for less money.

You guys all have your heads up your asses about this and the attitude that somehow it's all free money just boggles my mind.
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Old August-9th-2002, 12:45 AM
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You guys all have your heads up your asses about this and the attitude that somehow it's all free money just boggles my mind.

This is a somewhat true statement about 30or 40 years ago when warrantys were first started.. Now it is too late they will raise the prices regardless of what happens to the incline or decline of false warranty work

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I'm with Tex and GroHarlem

Originally posted by TexP5



Think about that carefully...If there were fewer false warranty claims, there would be a decrease in the cost of doing business, if they didn't have to stockpile billions against false claims, they could maintain profit levels while charging less. You'd get the same product for less money.

Right on Tex (and Gro Harlem) ...that's what I've been trying to say, but you articulated it better.
Saying 'prices will go up no matter what' is cynical and illogical. It's just that this mentality has been ingrained for so long, people think that it must be that way.

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Old August-9th-2002, 10:19 AM
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right on tex, i just wish the gas companies would lower the friggin cost of gas to the consumer. If 40 somethin cents per gallon goes to taxes, then there is no way it costs 40-200 cents more to produce the crap. I'd say they are making around 40-60% profit and won't spread the wealth to our gas gusslin, floor pedalin, hi revin asses.
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Old August-9th-2002, 10:24 AM
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Re: I'm with Tex and GroHarlem

Originally posted by frankd


Right on Tex (and Gro Harlem) ...that's what I've been trying to say, but you articulated it better.
Saying 'prices will go up no matter what' is cynical and illogical. It's just that this mentality has been ingrained for so long, people think that it must be that way.
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It's more or less an American mentality - this certainly is evident in the latest (and mounting) corporate scandals. All for oneself, at the expense of everyone else.
You Canadians are more accustomed to social awareness and the public need than most US folks.
Perhaps being from the "Land of Enron" & home of the "W" makes this an acceptable avenue of recourse from our "friend" w/ the NOX Box. However, I can see from the other Texans that their opinions on the matter are also divided. In the words of Martha Stewart: "and that's a good thing"
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Old August-9th-2002, 10:32 AM
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hahaha id like to see martha stewart make a nice flower basket and dinner set outta bed sheets and tooth brushes when she gets locked up for the same corperate bullsh!t
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Old August-9th-2002, 10:39 AM
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I'm waiting for the Martha Stewart line of custom license plates made on location in Ossining, New York. I'd buy one for my P5! lol
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Old August-9th-2002, 02:24 PM
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patio.. i feel sorry for you .. and u must be pissed becuz of the $$$ it will possibly cost.. and the time and all that jazz...

so if that's why you have such an attitude.. then fine.

calling ppl morons and telling ppl to stfu isn't very good when you're the one in need of help. =)


btw.. dealers don't pay for warranty, Mazda does. So no matter how much dealers may suck ***... you're not screwing them over, unless they decide it IS warranty work and when they report to Mazda, then screw them over telling them it isn't. But usually, dealers will probably get approval from Mazda first. At least that's how it's supposed to be done in Canada I hear.

Also... up north here.. it's cheaper to do take out instead of delivery at many pizza places. Yes.. delivery cost is built into the price IF you get delivery. (except for damn pizza hut.. same price... ******** =) ).
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Old August-9th-2002, 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Fulminatus

btw.. dealers don't pay for warranty, Mazda does.
Ummm, one more time, no.... in the end we do. Warranty costs have to be absorbed in the cost of the product (like the next car you buy). Not a hard economic concept to grasp.

And those of us who baby their cars, follow all maintenance schedules to the letter, keep their engines stock, should not have to help fund the repairs for those that abuse their cars in any way.
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Old August-9th-2002, 03:03 PM
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Really the only legitimate things to do here are....

A: File a comprehensive claim with your insurance company, just like you would for stone chipped windshield or if a tree fell on the car. This should not raise your rates as it is not a driving infraction to mistakenly drive through a puddle in the road. Even if it does it will be for the comp coverage only which is one of the lesser expensive portions of your whole policy. It sounds like a fairly common occurance in your area and I'm sure your insurer has paid out on this type of claim before. This is a very good example of why you should have insurance!

B: Just pay for it.

I have my doubts that a warranty claim would be honored, there will probably be too many tell tale signs. Good luck with whatever avenue you choose.

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Old August-9th-2002, 04:09 PM
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This forum is really starting to get to me. Half you guys are all ******' *******. The other half of you have this high-and-mighty know-it-all stance that makes me sick. I hope you all trip and fall on your *** one day so that the rest of can laugh in your collective faces and show you that you're really not any better than anyone else.

I don't think I've ever seen more bad advice in a single thread in my entire life. Really. You read just enough to confuse you, and the other facts you get confused. Then you pay more attention to someone elses pure speculation and suddenly a.) flood's never happen, b.) all intakes are pure evil, and c.) My headlights are 3 feet off the ground. At that point you'd have water lapping up over the windshield wipers.

And God forbid any of you are capable of making a mistake. You'd read a thread like this and it's fairly evident that we're all perfect.

Now some of you are spoiled enough that you can talk **** because you know if you ever **** up a car you can just run crying to mommy and daddy and get a new one.

A lot of you are probably too young to be able to survive the burden of actually owning an automobile anyway. I'm not saying it's an excuse, I'm just saying that you're being stupid because you're too young to know any better.

The rest of you are a lot older, and it's a perfect example of why these young bucks are so goddamn stupid. Instead of offering sound advice and encouragment, you start in with the "I told you so's" and the "That's what you get." You guys don't lead by example... How can you expect someone to learn something if all you do is tell them what they did wrong. It's so damn insipid. There are a million ways to do something incorrectly, and very few ways of doing something right.

******' Christ, no wonder the world is going to hell in a hand basket.

I can see I'm taking a ProtegeClub.com vacation.

Man, I'm not trying to say I'm perfect. I'm just trying to say that I know I'm not perfect. It actually gives myself room for improvement. Think about it before you know it all, OK.
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Old August-9th-2002, 04:19 PM
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So which half do you fit into?

Seriously, way to generalize about a bunch of people you don't even know.

I'm not saying you're totally wrong in what you're saying, but don't go making broad generalizations about everybody, because then you sound just as bad as the people that you're talking about in the first place.
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Old August-9th-2002, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Brubeck
Instead of offering sound advice and encouragment, you start in with the "I told you so's" and the "That's what you get." You guys don't lead by example
I would suggest that if you re-read this thread you will see that there was constructive and positive and logical advice given on several occasions. The post by silver_p5_owner just before your little rant was an example or a very thoughtful response and a realistic approach to the issue.
Unfortunately Patio has not been heard from as to what approach he is taking... but all possible options have been layed out more than once... what else can anyone say?

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