Originally posted by XtrmLzNC
I dont know if anyone else has dealt with this or not, but my yellow 2002 Protege5 is starting to fade. You can see it on the rear bumper real bad and somewhat on all other panels. It looks like its set out side for about 10 years and never been waxed. I waxed it about 3 or 4 weeks ago and it feels like it dont have any wax on it. I took it to the Mazda dealer today and the service manager looked at it and is getting the district Mazda rep involved. He said because it delt with a possible paint job, the District guy had to deal with it.

I just wanted some other MP5 owners opinions. I told him i showed the car and it is VERY well taken care of.

Originally posted by XtrmLzNC
i clayed a spot on my bumper and its still faded. I took it to a detail shop and they said the paint was THIN!!

Originally posted by mp5420
i am a detailer and i have a p5 to vivid of course but anyway the p5 has thin paint and i believe we have no clear coat on them when i first boughjt my car i buffed it and clayed it befor i put teflon on it and my buffin pad turned yellow so if this is true then are paint is going to fade fast my suggestion is to teflon your cars befor anything else itr will at least help a little

XXXXX,

Please allow me to apologize for the delay in my response. At this point I do not know why my first reply did not reach you.

Paints are formulated with a few different ingredients. One ingredient is the Pigment. The Pigment is a finely ground natural or synthetic insoluble particle that adds color and opacity (corrosion inhibitors) to a coating film. It grabs contaminants and attempts to hold them so that they don't damage your paint. Eventually if left untreated contaminants will defeat the pigment, resulting in a oxidized finish. Once the pigment is contaminated it must be removed. Because paints are prone to contamination they are formulated with enough pigment so that you can remove them with out having to worry about removing your paint. On paints that aren't clear coated or on tinted clear coats when you see the pigment on your applicator you know that you are removing contaminants not your paint. If your were to measure your paint with a paint thickness gauge before and after; the measurement will remain the same.

I know that this may be a little confusing so if you would like please feel free to contact me directly toll free at 800-854-8073 ext.126

Thank you,
T.J. Harmon
-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:57 AM
To: Thomas "TJ" Harmon
Subject: FW: Paint problem?


I emailed the message below, but havent recieved a response.

-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXXX
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:48 PM
To: Thomas "TJ" Harmon
Subject: RE: Paint problem?


Hello Thomas,
What exactly is the difference between the pigment of the paint and the paint itself? Im not sure if I understand the difference. Thanks

-XXXXX

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas "TJ" Harmon [mailto:THARMON@meguiars.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:13 PM
To: 'XXXXXXXX'
Subject: RE: Paint problem?


The color you will see on your applicator is only the pigment of your paint and not the paint it self. Because you are applying these product by hand you will not be able to create a high enough speed or heat to cause any harm to your finish. So no need to worry, go ahead and wax away!!

Thank you,
T.J. Harmon

-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 1:33 AM
To: Thomas "TJ" Harmon
Subject: RE: Paint problem?


I wanted to follow-up on this email I recieved from you. I am getting ready to do the 3-Step system again on my car, and wanted to clarify a few things before I start. I have confirmed that my car does have a clear-coat, but it is mixed in the paint. Since it is normal for the paint to show on the applicator, can I "overdue" this to the extent of harm to my car? If so, what can I do to prevent this from happening? What would be the correct way to do the 3-Step system without damaging the paint job on my car? Thank you in advance.

XXXX XXXXX


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas "TJ" Harmon [mailto:THARMON@meguiars.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:45 PM
To: 'XXXXXXX'
Subject: RE: Paint problem?


The yellow that your are seeing is normal. This is usually an indication that your car was not clear coated or your clear coat is a tinted clear coat. Being that it was only noticed in some spots as well as just a little bit it sounds as though you may have a tinted clear coat. Seeing the pigment of your car on you applicator tells you that the products are working. You need not fear harming your paint and or clear coat.

Thank you,
T.J. Harmon


-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXX
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:36 PM
To: expert
Subject: Paint problem?


I purchased Meguiars 3 step system. I have a Yellow 2002 Mazda Protege 5.When I applied the Paint Cleaner, I noticed that there was some yellow on the applicator after I removed the cleaner. It seems some of my paint came off. Could this be true, or is the the cleaner itself turning yellow? I didn't notice this yellow on each section of the car I applied the cleaner to, only certain sections. I also notice this yellow when I used the Polish and Wax (step 2 and 3). Can you please tell me why this might be happening? Have I "eaten" through my clear-coat? Any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

-XXXXXXXX

Originally posted by speedbump

PS. What do we do if it's "too late" to apply a Teflon coating, drive it only at night?