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Old October-4th-2001 | 07:58 PM
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Pioneer component set

I am thinking of putting a pioneer component set up front in my P5. I was just womderin what everybody thinks of pioneer speakers??
Old October-5th-2001 | 04:39 PM
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They aren't bad if you are keeping the stock deck. They tend to have high sensitivity to get more volume from lower power, because they don't handle all that much RMS power. Their power ratings are usually given in peak numbers, and are exaggerated. This is OK if you are keeping the stock deck though, as the amp will distort if you turn the gain (volume) up too much anyway. I wouldn't think you would need component Pioneers if you are sticking with the stock deck though. The front doors are 5x7/6x8 size. I'm sure Pioneer makes a coaxial that would fit and save some money. This would make the installation much easier also.
Old October-5th-2001 | 06:51 PM
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I wont be running off the stock deck, but they will just be run off an aftermarket head unit, not off a seperate amp or anything. So they might get like 20-22 RMS from the HU. I am not goin to put a set of coaxials cuz i already have this component set from a previous car. So i thought i would just stick with it, and try to not spend anymore money.
Old October-5th-2001 | 08:32 PM
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In that case, the price is right! I get the impression that you already know Pioneer doesn't make the best speakers available, but they are economical.
Old October-6th-2001 | 12:47 AM
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yah. i know they arent the greatest speakers. But i just wanted to see what some other peoples opinions are.
Old October-6th-2001 | 08:44 AM
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Pioneer

nice sound, but yeah, your price seems unbeatable pioneer makes decent speakers if you are not gonna blow someone's ears apart with sheer volume...but if you are after decent sounds and all, sure why not pioneer? i mean, hey the price is right!

in the future, you might wanna go with jl audio, or directed. mb quarts are good too. but it all depends on what you want. and if your head unit is good, then you'd want your speakers to be able to get the most of what your deck is throwing out.
Old October-6th-2001 | 12:33 PM
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In truth, no two people hear exactly alike. So judging sound quality by another person is useless, you have to listen to the speakers yourself to determine if you like the sound they produce. However, speaker construction quality is another matter. If you are interested in things like RMS power capacity, resonance frequency, Q, frequency range, sensitivity, etc. Those things can be measured objectively. However, it all comes down to sound. Try and listen to speakers as close to the way you would personally use them. Use your own radio station, CD's, etc. and listen at the volume you would normally. It's hard to simulate the car enviroment in a store, so they won't be exact, but get as close as you can.
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True Dat, Eric!

yeah, it's all personal choice, so i just threw out a few choices! ultimately it comes down to what type of music YOU listen to, and how loud you normally like it...hey, i think we heard this b4! good job again Eric!
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Originally posted by Eric F
In truth, no two people hear exactly alike. So judging sound quality by another person is useless, you have to listen to the speakers yourself to determine if you like the sound they produce. However, speaker construction quality is another matter. If you are interested in things like RMS power capacity, resonance frequency, Q, frequency range, sensitivity, etc. Those things can be measured objectively. However, it all comes down to sound. Try and listen to speakers as close to the way you would personally use them. Use your own radio station, CD's, etc. and listen at the volume you would normally. It's hard to simulate the car enviroment in a store, so they won't be exact, but get as close as you can.
I'll second that!

The best way to get the closest reflection of what they will sound like in your car without actually putting them in there, is to demo the speakers in someone elses car. If you hang out at a HQ shop for long enough you'll find somebody mind you this is the VERY LONG way to do this. Another, is to hit up the shops that sell the speakers you want and ask to forward your business card or phone number to any regular customers that they know to have the speakers you want. Most ppl will be more than happy to let you listen to thier pride and joy system...
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