Just to let you know.
There have been at least three people that have bought production SRT4's from the dealer and dynod over 220 WHP bone stock.


Evan

 

The pre-production rumor is JUST a rumor.

With the reliability issue: I've read enough MSPs with problems already. Maybe. Mazda will take care of it in the 2003.5 models.

Also, Mazda has a 4yr warranty. Dodge has a 7yr warranty. They must have add more faith in their car than Mazda.

 

I thought that it was rated 215 hp at the crank???


In any case, the engine that is turboed in the Neon, is it the same one that has been used in it the past few years???

 

Its was HIGHLY underrated.

Here are some dyno sheets and test runs. STOCK!

SRT-4 Stock
~2400 miles
Temp 55-60 degrees
Small fan blowing on the intercooler, hood open
Sunoco 94 @ 1.99 gallon

Run 1
227 hp
250 lb/ft

Run 2
227 hp
248 lb/ft
Dyno day
and






With custom exhaust ONLY: 228hp 269tq



Yes. The 2.4L from the R/T. But of course in has been tweeked to withstand that much power and it can take more.

 

Tough call on the SRT-4 HP numbers, guys. If you check the Dodge/Chrysler website, they have info on the SRT line-up. According to Dodge, the SRT-4 has 205HP at 5400rpm and 220lb-ft. of torque at 2000-4800rpm. So, why the low numbers now? And are also quoting 0-60 times of 5.9 seconds. Just my 2 cents. Fast car, but it's still a Neon. Just like the new Tiburon...nice looking...nice options...fast at times...but it's still a Hyundai. Ciao...

 

Like I said before, it's underrated.


So, my car is just a Protege. Just like a Corvette is just a corvette, or a Viper is just a Viper by Chrysler.

I don't see your point.

 

His point is that Dodge as well as Hyundai will always be known for making low quality cars.

 

Quoting myself

 

Dodge's basic warranty is 3 years or 36,000 miles.

The 7/70,000 warranty covers powertrain only, and you must pay a deductible on powertrain work. Some frickin deal.

 

Can some one please CLOSE this thread?

 

and kia has what? a 10 year warrenty. does the same argument hold?


at any rate, someone will always have more horsepower. if you buy the SRT today, you'll be kicking yourself if a 230whp Suzuki Aerio comes out next year. That is, if you solely base your car purchases on horsepower alone.

I fail to see RHAGEL's claim that the MSP is "two steps behind".

 

The SRT-4 doesn't even come to Canada so for those of us North of the border, it's an easy choice

 

So all the SRT-4s customers are getting are PRE-PRODUCTION models? Do you know the meaning of pre-production?
And those dyno charts pretty much blows your theory outta the water.

According to CR, Chrysler is just as reliable as Mazda, with 20 problems per 100 vehicles. If Chrysler's are crap, guess Mazda is too.
BTW Hyundai was second after Toyota, with only 11 problems per 100 vehicles. Crap eh?


Mopar now got a 5.4s 0-60 and 13.9 1/4 from a production SRT-4.
And again, the Neon's numbers are very under-rated.

Nope, the R/T has a 2.0L SOHC making 150hp. The 2.4L is from the Mexican Stratus R/T that has been around for years, it's a proven engine.
Chrysler has pretty much redesign it for more boost and durability for the Neon however.
Neon tuners have said that the current engine is good for at least 350hp on the stock internals, it's built for boost.

And lastly:
It is coming to Canada in Fall 2003 as a 2004 model.

 

Well thank ya Mr. DDakRT for clearing up the mistakes.

Well in my eyes, the SRT-4 is a better deal. And of course to others, its not. But these types of arguments are expected to happen. If they didn't, everyone will be pretty much driving the same car. Cars appeal to ppl for different reasons. The SRT-4 just appealed to me a lot more than the MSP.

 

if straight line performance mattered so much for you horsepower gung-ho freaks, then you all should get a cheap RWD car with a V8... choices? let's see... mustang, camaro, firebird, trans am.... hmmm

yeah.. so the SRT is better in what way? POWER

I fail to see how the MSP is "inferior" in everyway to the SRT

time has shown that people who buy proteges don't care about straight line power.... they care about the handling

I'm actually glad you want to get an SRT if you wanted to just drag race with it, because if you bought an MSP, it would have been wasted

Like I said before... the typical American's definition of "fast"-- straight line acceleration times.... the typical American's definition of "racing"-- straight line acceleration times and running around an oval countless yet mindless times