http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COSVweTDUU4

 

I thought these MS3's were suposed to be fast??? Basically even with a bolt on RSX Type S? Not my car...just wondering what you guys think about this...I thought the MS3 woulda been faster especially w/ a 3" catback exhaust.

 

i thought the same thing... my bro had a rsx-s and it was pretty quick, he had a couple bolt ons, but i figured the ms3 would kill that rsx

 

i have raced several rsx. i have beat them all real bad.


2010 speed3, cai, 3" full exaust, turbo smart blowoff

 

there was also one there with a CAI that was basically just as fast as the one racing with the 3" Catback. So I imagine a CAI would be a nice mod to add to the MS3 w/ the 3" Catback...

gotta give the RSX some credit tho, untuned and w/ an extra passenger

 

A. They were already moving before they started racing..Why not start from a standstill
B. Sometimes the driver's ability can define who wins.
C. MS3 has more HP and Torque than a RSX-S. MS3 would / could win every time barring driver error or mechanical issue.

 

what would that really matter? both cars are fwd anyway, and finding a true quarter mile to run from a dig is not easy...a highway pull gives a good idea of how each car pulls.

Sure but in this case I would give the edge to the driver of the RSX, supposedly the car has ES MM inserts and Ingalls Torque Dampner to eliminate w/ wheel hop and is also lowered on Eibach Pro Kit springs while the Mazda has a stock suspension

if you were so smart, you would know that HP and TQ are not only two things that determine the outcome of a race. Weight, Gearing, as you stated driver ability, even the weather can play a role....so lets think about those things as well. The RSX was probably lighter despite having an extra passenger and it also has better gearing, I'm sure it's geared shorter than the MS3 trans.....shorter gears = faster acceleration.

That RSX is fast, he put cars on a AP2 S2000 the other night as well.

 

If you were so smart you would have done some research before posting. See link on comparisons of both vehicles.

http://www.kbb.com/compare-cars/specs/197454-vs-9

Even though the RSX-Type S is 300 or so lbs lighter, the comparison in HP and Torque difference is off the chart in favor of the MS3 regardless of the gearing of either vehicle. I've driven the RSX to its max and its no MS3.

With regards to rolling starts, shows how the car pulls? Then why don't they do it that way at the track? Makes no sense.

Suspension had nothing to do with this race. You're making assumptions not presented. Besides the MS3 has different suspension set up than the regular 3's plus traction control and DSC.

 

What exactly are you telling me that I didn't already know or post???? So you're telling me that weight and gearing has nothing to do with acceleration....lol, wow....you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are ya?

You've obviously never driven a modded RSX-S, b/c believe me...it's a completely different car with simple bolt ons and the video proves that, lol. Your OPINION means nothing to me when there is video proof right in front of my face. So what you've driven both cars, stock for stock it's not a comparision...no one is arguing that, but modded you can obviously see what happens.

With regards to rolling starts, as I said previously....find a true quarter mile on the street and I'll give you a cookie. Racing off a dig on the street is worthless, you don't have a true tree or a true finish line....at least with a highway pull you are able to see which car is truly quicker. My quote about suspension was against your running from a stop comment, basically point is....two fwd cars off a dig, the one with the better suspension/tire setup is going to win when they are that close off a roll and the RSX had the better setup in that situation. What do you think it's easy to launch a FWD car that makes that much tq off a dig where it would make that much of a difference than a rolling start against the RSX??? I don't think so.

 

not to mention, the link you posted doesn't even have the correct specs for the Acura....it's 210bhp, not 201bhp

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2005/acu...649/specs.html

maybe you need to do a little more research before posting, huh?

see kids, this is what happens when you internet race....*Yawn*

 

See comments in bold.

 

Error on KBB so FU!

 

excuses much? I actually don't own a RSX, I have a Si...but the engines are similar. I'm on the east coast so there's no possible way of us racing, lol. And yes, a RSX-S or Civic Si w/ an intake, race header and exhaust will be right next to a stock or single bolt on MS3....as seen in the video. Add K Pro or Flashpro and the RSX or Si might even pull on the MS3...lol!! Of course, once you start modding the MS3 it's going to take more than simple bolt ons for a NA car to compete. But stock or lightly modded, the K series can hang...as shown in vid. Sorry it's not what you like to see or expected, but it's reality.

 

good job double checking your sources

 

Well...I guess a friendly grudge match won't happen and are bound by vid only. Hey....About 3 years ago, I had an Integra until some F$CK tard side swiped it and took off without a note while I was at work and totaled it. Acura/Honda make great rides!