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Old August-13th-2004 | 03:24 PM
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mazda 3 sport VS honda civic SIR

Do a mazda 3 sport stock can beat a honda civic sir stock on the 0-100km/h ive checked the specs of the 2 cars and its pretty much the same on the numbers... i havent had the luck yet to race one neitheir a civic SI wich i HOPE i can pass in pure speed

ps i hate civic!
Old August-13th-2004 | 09:23 PM
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Civic Si Mazda3 s 5-Door
Curb Weight - Manual (lb.) 2744 2826
Standard Engine 2.0L 160 hp I4 2.3L 160 hp I4
Horsepower 160 @ 6500 RPM 160 @ 6500 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 132 @ 5000 RPM 150 @ 4500 RPM

looking at that, i think it would be pretty close....i choose the 5 door b/c thats what i have, the sedan has a different weight i am sure.... i think the mazda would torque through it though?? 18 more ft lbs, and 80lbs heavier...??...mmmmmmmm...
Old August-15th-2004 | 02:40 AM
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Mazda also reaches peak torque at lower rpms...I really think it would be down to the driver...however all things being equal, I think the numbers favor the mazda...how about drag co efficient and gear ratios too...the honda's gearing may allow it to out accelerate the Mazda...which has better gas mileage??
Old August-15th-2004 | 03:48 AM
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I actually think the mazda has better gearing. I bet the honda would get better gas mileage though!
Old August-18th-2004 | 07:51 PM
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The honda would win. Nothing can beat the v-tech. I don't quite understand how the vvt on teh mazda 3 works but all I know is that the honda one is superior.
Old August-18th-2004 | 08:21 PM
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Nevermind. I just looked up the 0-60 times on google. the si gets 7.9 and the 3 gets 7.4 so the 3 wins. But the vtech sytem from honda is very nice nontheless.

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Old August-18th-2004 | 09:08 PM
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HAHAHAAHAHAH! open mouth insert foot. My p5 with a header an intake can out run the new Si's in the 1/8th mile.

"If your moto is "torque low, shift high" than 3Fast3Retarded is the film for you"
Old August-18th-2004 | 09:28 PM
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That was completely irrelivent. I am sure your car is quite nice but thats not what we are talking about. Anyway the 3 won.
Old August-18th-2004 | 11:14 PM
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irrelevant?? see if you can follow this logic-stream.


p5 beats Si.

Mazda3 beats p5.

therefore, mazda3 beats Si.
Old August-19th-2004 | 05:54 AM
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Well, I guess that works out. Off topic but good luck with the supercharging of your P5. If I had any money I would support you.
Old August-19th-2004 | 12:42 PM
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Don't get too cocky about your 3s yet.

I played in my 3s with a Ford Focus ZX3 and won, but not by much. He had 3 passengers, I had none. I was loaded down from a Costco trip, maybe 200lbs of cargo. We went several times to 110+ and I beat him every time, but not by much. I was surprized. Good thing for me he pie'd out at 110 or I'd have been on the limiter again. Safety freaks can just STFU. I have been racing for years. This was done on a striaght, flat road that is 12 miles long out in the middle of no where.

Is there a way to defeat the speed limiter on the 3 yet?

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Old August-19th-2004 | 05:30 PM
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probably should be a new thread...

nope not as far as i can tell, and i have been surfin tons of mazda3 boards lately, the only thing would be a stand alone ecu....
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