Mazda3 2.0L with 148hp. Howd they do it.
December-14th-2003 | 02:35 PM
#31
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Originally posted by badM3
Are you freakin serious???
1st off >The P5 gets 25/31 man and 25/30 auto. Oh thats weird... the 3 gets 25/32 man and 24/29. Sorry your owned there.
2nd > How can the new 2.3L have many problems when its a new motor? Oooh looks like another one.
3rd > the 3 drives like ****?? I must admit the Protege line was good. In fact, they were awesome. The 3 has been said by many that is not by any means a "Protege"... Its a replacement. So it doesnt please you.. does that mean it drives like ****?
Sorry all, this just looked like a rediculous post.. i had to defend the 3. Although I do like the P5, it just needs to grow some ***** (power wise).
Are you freakin serious???
1st off >The P5 gets 25/31 man and 25/30 auto. Oh thats weird... the 3 gets 25/32 man and 24/29. Sorry your owned there.
2nd > How can the new 2.3L have many problems when its a new motor? Oooh looks like another one.
3rd > the 3 drives like ****?? I must admit the Protege line was good. In fact, they were awesome. The 3 has been said by many that is not by any means a "Protege"... Its a replacement. So it doesnt please you.. does that mean it drives like ****?
Sorry all, this just looked like a rediculous post.. i had to defend the 3. Although I do like the P5, it just needs to grow some ***** (power wise).
1. The 3 does get worse gas mileage than the P5 as shown above in automatic, I'm not sure what your argument is.
2. Although a new motor for the 3, it has been around for over 1/2 a year in the 6 already and the 2.3L does have problems with it, although I hope that Mazda has fixed those problems now in the 3.
3. Although the 3 isn't as "fun" to drive as the P5, it is much more refined in every way prossible. The 3 Sport can accelerate to 60 almost 2 seconnds faster than the P5, gets 0.87g vs 0.80 in the P5. So no, the 3 doesn't drive like ****.
December-17th-2003 | 01:12 PM
#32
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From: W.Htfd. CT
Originally posted by jaredspangler
The 2.0l engine has nothing to do with Ford. The 2.3l engine IS a variant of the engine used in Ford cars for a long time (remember the 2.3l Turbo in the 80's Mustang?). It however has been seriously worked over by Mazda (thank God!!). Very interesting article here about the platform that Mazda is sharing with the Focus and Volvo S40.
The 2.0l engine has nothing to do with Ford. The 2.3l engine IS a variant of the engine used in Ford cars for a long time (remember the 2.3l Turbo in the 80's Mustang?). It however has been seriously worked over by Mazda (thank God!!). Very interesting article here about the platform that Mazda is sharing with the Focus and Volvo S40.
Yes, I know that the old Pinto engine was also used in the Ranger/B2300, but they did start to use the new engine I think three years ago.
As for the 2.3 turbo Mustang, it was called the SVO.
January-1st-2004 | 03:07 PM
#35
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From: Central Maryland
badm3,
I know you just bought a 3 and you do not want it bashed the 2.0liter 3 gets 1 mpg better then the 2.0l protege5. Wow 1mpg. The 2.3 has worse then the 2.0l protege.
Now if you look up the mazda6 2.3 liter and look up the list of problems they are pretty long for a newer motor. I know the 2.0 liter fs motor has been out for a while and had its issues as well.
Looking back the the fs had less problems its first year.
Now on the track we had a mazda 3 2.3 and a protege 5 2.0L, The mazda3 had a little more get up but the weight of the 3 has gone up more then the protege5. So what extra ponies it has has been wasted. The car sits much higher stocked then the protege5. Cornering it reminded me of my buddies focus. Its first year and I feel Mazda needs to work some of the problems out of it before I would buy one.
Oh well
I know you just bought a 3 and you do not want it bashed the 2.0liter 3 gets 1 mpg better then the 2.0l protege5. Wow 1mpg. The 2.3 has worse then the 2.0l protege.
Now if you look up the mazda6 2.3 liter and look up the list of problems they are pretty long for a newer motor. I know the 2.0 liter fs motor has been out for a while and had its issues as well.
Looking back the the fs had less problems its first year.
Now on the track we had a mazda 3 2.3 and a protege 5 2.0L, The mazda3 had a little more get up but the weight of the 3 has gone up more then the protege5. So what extra ponies it has has been wasted. The car sits much higher stocked then the protege5. Cornering it reminded me of my buddies focus. Its first year and I feel Mazda needs to work some of the problems out of it before I would buy one.
Oh well
January-1st-2004 | 05:04 PM
#36
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Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 12
Originally posted by glowck
badm3,
I know you just bought a 3 and you do not want it bashed the 2.0liter 3 gets 1 mpg better then the 2.0l protege5. Wow 1mpg. The 2.3 has worse then the 2.0l protege.
Now if you look up the mazda6 2.3 liter and look up the list of problems they are pretty long for a newer motor. I know the 2.0 liter fs motor has been out for a while and had its issues as well.
Looking back the the fs had less problems its first year.
Now on the track we had a mazda 3 2.3 and a protege 5 2.0L, The mazda3 had a little more get up but the weight of the 3 has gone up more then the protege5. So what extra ponies it has has been wasted. The car sits much higher stocked then the protege5. Cornering it reminded me of my buddies focus. Its first year and I feel Mazda needs to work some of the problems out of it before I would buy one.
Oh well
badm3,
I know you just bought a 3 and you do not want it bashed the 2.0liter 3 gets 1 mpg better then the 2.0l protege5. Wow 1mpg. The 2.3 has worse then the 2.0l protege.
Now if you look up the mazda6 2.3 liter and look up the list of problems they are pretty long for a newer motor. I know the 2.0 liter fs motor has been out for a while and had its issues as well.
Looking back the the fs had less problems its first year.
Now on the track we had a mazda 3 2.3 and a protege 5 2.0L, The mazda3 had a little more get up but the weight of the 3 has gone up more then the protege5. So what extra ponies it has has been wasted. The car sits much higher stocked then the protege5. Cornering it reminded me of my buddies focus. Its first year and I feel Mazda needs to work some of the problems out of it before I would buy one.
Oh well
The Protege does not have higher handling limits it is just more tossable. It also torque steers much worse than the 3. If you think lots of people are having engine problems with the MZ3, then I think you should go over to the Mazda3forum.com and have a read for yourself.
About the only problem reported over there was one guy getting a cel over an airbag sensor.
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