What brand of gas?
November-13th-2002 | 10:23 PM
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What brand of gas?
I have always used Sunoco Ultra 94 gas in Toronto. I don't recall seeing any Sunoco gas stations in Calgary. Is it true?
If not, I'm leaning towards Esso 92. Any thoughts / experience?
If not, I'm leaning towards Esso 92. Any thoughts / experience?
November-13th-2002 | 11:17 PM
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Orange,
We have all the basic gas out here, Petro Can, Esso, Shell, Chevron, Husky/Mohawk - (these two use the same Ethanol blended gas). Additioanlly there are a bunch of third party gas stations (ie non mainstream)
The octane levels out here are (on average) 87, 89, 92. I belive Mohawk caries a 94 but I can't confirm that.
If you are looking for some high octane, the Mohawk on McKnight carries 104 but its pricy I think about $3.25/L
This website might help you out a bit http://www.calgarygasprices.com/.
Mostly I just run 87 or 89 depending how rich I'm feeling at the time.
Hope this helps.
We have all the basic gas out here, Petro Can, Esso, Shell, Chevron, Husky/Mohawk - (these two use the same Ethanol blended gas). Additioanlly there are a bunch of third party gas stations (ie non mainstream)
The octane levels out here are (on average) 87, 89, 92. I belive Mohawk caries a 94 but I can't confirm that.
If you are looking for some high octane, the Mohawk on McKnight carries 104 but its pricy I think about $3.25/L
This website might help you out a bit http://www.calgarygasprices.com/.
Mostly I just run 87 or 89 depending how rich I'm feeling at the time.
Hope this helps.
Last edited by Snype451; November-13th-2002 at 11:21 PM.
November-14th-2002 | 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by 90&00 Protege
It's not designed for it, can't burn it properly (especially in cold weather), and unless you've radically changed the ignition timing, all you're doing is wasting your money (extra $0.10 per litre). Run Regular (87 Octane) like the car was meant to be run on.
If you're using Premium for the extra detergeant, you're far better off using a fuel system cleaner once every six months than Premium. It's both cheaper (base on the extra $0.10 per litre) and better for your car.
It's not designed for it, can't burn it properly (especially in cold weather), and unless you've radically changed the ignition timing, all you're doing is wasting your money (extra $0.10 per litre). Run Regular (87 Octane) like the car was meant to be run on.
If you're using Premium for the extra detergeant, you're far better off using a fuel system cleaner once every six months than Premium. It's both cheaper (base on the extra $0.10 per litre) and better for your car.
November-14th-2002 | 12:39 PM
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I agree with Richard the protege and protege 5 are designed to run on regular gas(87 octane), you can run into problems if you use higher grade of fuel. higher grade fuel has caused problems with oxygen sensors in the past.
Jim
Jim
November-14th-2002 | 10:50 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Like Brian said, my car needs the higher Octane, so there goes $0.10 extra / L ... I agree that for regular Pros & Pro5's, 87 is enough.
I am shying away from Shell because they have some special additives that caused recalls on some Chrysler cars. Just in case ...
I'll check out if there are more Esso or Petro-Can around downtown ...
I am shying away from Shell because they have some special additives that caused recalls on some Chrysler cars. Just in case ...
I'll check out if there are more Esso or Petro-Can around downtown ...
November-15th-2002 | 12:03 AM
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octane is one thing, brand is another...
My advice is to stay away from Esso, followed by PetroCan. Esso has been cited as the highest sulphur content gas (dirty gas) available in Canada. Followed by PetroCan. The sulphur is eventually going to damage your car's emissions systems, and it'll probably happen once you're out of warranty. By then, you'll be looking at some hefty fees to bring that car back into the strict emissions requirements.
Whenever I can, I try to fill up at Sunoco. Use 87 octane in my Protege 5. McEwans is good too, but they are much harder to come by I find. In cold morning starts, my car fumes has a sweet ethynol smell.
Here are some links I researched before deciding to avoid Esso gas stations. I was soo close to getting me an Esso rewards card for all those car washes I wanted...
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The following link is to a document prepared by the Sierra Legal Defence Fund on the dirty gas topic. Scroll down to page 21 for the blurb on Esso.
http://www.sierralegal.org/reports/air_report.pdf
The following link is a post of an article that originally appeared in the Ottawa Citizen.
http://hp.bccna.bc.ca/pipermail/clea...ay/000082.html
The following link is to the Friends of the Earth Clean Air Campaign.
http://www.foecanada.org/cleanair/boycott.htm
Whenever I can, I try to fill up at Sunoco. Use 87 octane in my Protege 5. McEwans is good too, but they are much harder to come by I find. In cold morning starts, my car fumes has a sweet ethynol smell.
Here are some links I researched before deciding to avoid Esso gas stations. I was soo close to getting me an Esso rewards card for all those car washes I wanted...
--
The following link is to a document prepared by the Sierra Legal Defence Fund on the dirty gas topic. Scroll down to page 21 for the blurb on Esso.
http://www.sierralegal.org/reports/air_report.pdf
The following link is a post of an article that originally appeared in the Ottawa Citizen.
http://hp.bccna.bc.ca/pipermail/clea...ay/000082.html
The following link is to the Friends of the Earth Clean Air Campaign.
http://www.foecanada.org/cleanair/boycott.htm
November-15th-2002 | 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Orange
I'll check out if there are more Esso or Petro-Can around downtown ...
I'll check out if there are more Esso or Petro-Can around downtown ...
Downtown is limited to two Esso stations period. There is one on MacLeod Trail heading south out of downtown, and the other is on Memorial Drive and Edmonton Trail heading north out of downtown. If you want something a bit futher out I believe there is a shell to the west.
Can you tell I live downtown?
Brian
November-15th-2002 | 08:46 AM
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Re: octane is one thing, brand is another...
Originally posted by Nammo
Whenever I can, I try to fill up at Sunoco. Use 87 octane in my Protege 5. McEwans is good too, but they are much harder to come by I find. In cold morning starts, my car fumes has a sweet ethynol smell.
Whenever I can, I try to fill up at Sunoco. Use 87 octane in my Protege 5. McEwans is good too, but they are much harder to come by I find. In cold morning starts, my car fumes has a sweet ethynol smell.
Brian
November-15th-2002 | 10:31 AM
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When I bought my P5, the salesman specifically not to use Mohawk gas.. and there's a blurb in the car manual about not using gas with a high <whatever its called that mohawk puts in their gas.. can't remember, it's too early 
> content.
I tried to find some factual information to the various gas rumours and didn't have much luck. I'd find articles praising a particular gas station, and more articles bashing it.. Always contraditory information, which in a business as rich as gasoline.. didn't surprise me.
In the end, all gas is dirty, bad for your car and horrible for the environment.. heck your car lights it on fire and it explodes.. how healthy can that possibly be made... and using any gas, eventually your car will break.. car's break period.. only way to stop that is not to drive it..
> content.I tried to find some factual information to the various gas rumours and didn't have much luck. I'd find articles praising a particular gas station, and more articles bashing it.. Always contraditory information, which in a business as rich as gasoline.. didn't surprise me.
In the end, all gas is dirty, bad for your car and horrible for the environment.. heck your car lights it on fire and it explodes.. how healthy can that possibly be made... and using any gas, eventually your car will break.. car's break period.. only way to stop that is not to drive it..
November-15th-2002 | 12:47 PM
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90&00 Protege:
Mazda recommends against using ethanol-blended gas...so no Mohawk or the other (can't recall who else sells their type of gas).
Mazda recommends against using ethanol-blended gas...so no Mohawk or the other (can't recall who else sells their type of gas).
November-15th-2002 | 09:44 PM
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I found the following link on the Renewable Fuels Association website. Its gives the facts and fiction on ethanol and ethanol blended gas. According to them, the negative effects on fuel systems are in the past. The problem is nothing to worry about in later model cars.
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/factfic_enperf.html
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/factfic_enperf.html