few issues: tire wear on lowered car, camber setting, tires(brands & quality)

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Old December-17th-2002 | 06:48 PM
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few issues: tire wear on lowered car, camber setting, tires(brands & quality)

Ok, so ive had my car lowered on rims for about 9000 miles. Being the smart one that i am, i never rotated my tires and now the front ones are like bald on the inside and theres spots where you can see the actual like metal/fibers of the inner parts of the tire or whatever. Its pretty bad. So, i need new tires, my back tires are fine and got a bunch of tread left. So i got some questions. First heres my set up and info(its also in the sig):

2002 MP5
Lowered Eibach pro-kit
215/35/18 Pirelli p7000 SuperSports
as i said, its been like 9000 Miles

Ok so, first i need new tires. I dont wanna go with pirellis again. I hear they wear out hella quick and im thinkin i agree. I know driving styles are different n stuff and it could have just been me as a driver. I did push the car on the turns when i first got the wheels on but after that not much. I really take care of the car, but i really dont want that to be the issue on here. So, have you guys heard this too? that like pirellis wear out quick? what kinda brands should i look into? I dont have an incredibly high budget but i want good tires.

Also, about the camber, only the inner parts of my front tires were worn, does this mean i need a camber adjustment. The wear on the outsides of the tire were noticable but not that bad, it was like bald on the insides. DO you guys out there got ur cambers adjusted?

Anyhoo, last topic, ok, so im gettin two new tires ASAP, what should i look into? like i cant spend too much and i know its vague, but like what have your guys' expiriences been with tire brands(and specific make?), which ones in your expirience and opinion last the longest (that sounds liek a boneheaded question, i know, haha).

Aright, sorry for the long message, and the bold was to stand out for those who skim long posts, haha......ok, waiting eagerly all, thanks, peace!

EDIT: ok so i did some searchin and some reviewing, im looking at the following tires in the same size, chime in on what you guys think..
1) Kumho Ecsta MX
2) Nitto NT 450
3) MAYBE - Yokohama Parada Spec-2 but i hear they suck in rain

I never drive in snow(but maybe like a few days in light light snow when i go to the mountains but i do drive in rain, usually heavy rain in winters)

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Old December-17th-2002 | 11:53 PM
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Since you only have an Eibach drop kit I'd say the problem is more the offset or the width of your 18's. You've got to have pretty bad camber to wear down to the steel belts in 9000 miles. Enough camber that you would see the rim is clearly slanting outwards towards the ground.

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Old December-18th-2002 | 12:47 AM
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I would guess the problem is toe, not camber. I have 10k miles on soft tires (Falken Azenis) with 2.5 degrees of negative camber, and I still have plenty of tread on the inside. And, since I autocross on them, they get plenty of hard use. I run zero toe, front and rear.

When you lowered your car, did you get it aligned?
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I don't have tons of experience on different tires but I have gone through about half a dozen sets since I started driving.

It is true that some Pirelli's won't win any awards with tread life, but they will last much longer than 9,000 miles if you have proper alignment. I can't remember the tread wear/compound (220 or 180 or something?) on P7000's but they will last longer than that.

I have been using Bridgestone Potenza S-03 pole positions (215/40 17) for about 5,000 miles and they are the absolute best tires I have ever used for wet and summer driving. They are quiet and seem to have good tread life. They are not cheap though. I paid about $150 per tire and I assume they are more for your size. I have used Dunlop SP 9000 in the same size and they were nothing compared to the S-03s. My friend has Spec 2's in the same size and they seem to be decent for the price but they are loud as **** (If that bothers you). I also used Bridgestone RE730's which were a little cheaper and I am not sure if they are in your size. They were good but hard to compare to the S-03's because they were on a different car and size all together. All of the PZero series are excellent and the newer and less expensive PZero Nero's are said to be great for the price, but I have never used them.

hope that gives you some idea of some other brands
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thanks for all the feedback guys. i dont care much about noise. I didnt get it aligned, and never rotated tires. im looking into cambering the front. i got no clue about cambering n stuff and like any info on that would be great. Do they sell specific kits for mp5? i think i might go with the kuhmos or nittos, but more likely not the yokohamas.


EDIT: aright i did some callin around, now im thinking about the Nitto 555. THe Kuhmo MX are hella expensive for some wierd reason(maybe cuz theyre new?). So the 555s arent that much more than 450s. THeyre about $134 per tire at some shop down here. Also, the guy was caliming camber kit for front axil is $50 and the rear is $45. Does this seem a little low to you guys?

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Old December-18th-2002 | 06:45 PM
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ok, im sure some of you are gettin sick of this damn topic. But i read a few other threads about cambering and i think im just gonna get my car aligned and not cambered. This should fix the toe (im assuming). Cuz i never got it a aligned when i put the rims on n lowered it. So i *think* im goin with the nitto 555 pending what you people gotta say about em and im just gonna get an alignment. i hate car drama, and this is definatly what i would consider car drama

I once heard though that "you create your own drama"


btw, the offset of my wheels are 48. its the adr sokudo 10s
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